Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-24448896-20130705193343/@comment-3247345-20130706013358

Okay, I'm sort of in a difficult position here. First off I agree with @Renardy that Jessie does appear to be using a sock puppet to refute bad things about the A&A Wiki. There's no question it's Jessie1010's account (proof). There's deception going on with this which is part of of the sock puppet definition. On the other hand the account wasn't used to break any rules. I've also had trouble on the A&A wiki. I've made no secret of my dislike for that wiki or the problems I've had with Jessie1010. I'll also say I'm sympathetic to what @Renardy is saying about Jessie1010. The I agree with a lot of what she said. Thing is it's not relevant to he discussion. If something needs to be done something about this sockpuppeting so be it but that needs to be handled separately from the issue of Evanf's rights. This is about Evanf, not Jessie1010. So I'll say what I think about this.

Most of what I want to say has been so said. First off there's the article comments issue. He's disabled the comments without consensus at least twice. Maybe the first time was justified because of the the huge amount of X rated material in them. But you could also argue that the situation got that bad due to Evanf's neglect. Before you tell me it wasn't neglect because he left I'll say that's false because he didn't demote himself. He's lying when he says he can't demote himself. Any bureaucrat can remove his his admin and bcrat rights. The fact that he's saying he can't and only staff can tells me he lied because he wanted to keep the rights without doing the work. Now, besides shutting off comments without consenus he's been a bit deceitful about the whole thing. When he first declared he was shutting off the comments he called them "stupid and unneeded". But now that the entire wiki has stood up to him on this issue, as well as other issues, he said he loved comments. Does anyone really think this was a sudden change of heart? I think it's more likely that he backed down when the campaign to remove his rights for abuse started to gather momentum. Not to mention he's been either using proxy IPs or his friends who don't edit here to distort the poll. Pretty hypocritical when you condsider Evanf criticized Jessie1010 for doing the exact same thing. So there's also an element of deception, as well as not being able to abide by consensus.

Then of course there's Jessie1010's block and the related feud that seems to have been running for almost 2 years. Maybe Jessie1010 did some stuff to Evanf. Maybe Jessie1010 isn't completely innocent in this feud. But this thread is not the place to pass judgement on who's in the right and who's in the wrong in the feud. What's important is what happened on this wiki. What happened here is beyond clear now that certain users have uncovered proof. The alleged vandal account has zero edits here and the pages Evanf says were vandalized have no history of such vandalism (see here and here). As with the comments situation Evanf backed down when he saw his abuse would get his rights revoked. Does anyone truly believe he would have backed down on either situation had he not been stood up to and threatened with demotion?

More generally there's Evanf's attitude toward adminship. He seems to think it means he's the boss and his will alone decides outcomes. It's pretty clear that the vast majority of users want comments and he should respect that. Being an admin doesn't mean you can overrule 98% of the wiki on an issue. Plus as I mentioned earlier he seems to want the rights without doing the work. His contributions show that he goes long periods without doing anything. Like between August 21 and October 15 of 2012. Between October 15 and April 2 he edited a grand total of 5 times. Lastly on this point his only activity since May 28 has been to disable comments without consenous and abuse his power trying to shut up anyone who challenges it. Confession0791 had to restore stuff Evanf deleted.There's also the fact that his conduct towards other users are unbecoming of an admin. Like the fact he's been deleting stuff to cover up his abuses, which is itself abusive. Or just the way he treats others. He told someone to shut up and removed the reply. He also insults users he blocks in the block log. I think we've seen enough to conclude Evanf's rights should be revoked.

I want to conclude by saying this: Evanf is accusing all of us of "trying to take him down". This isn't really the case. There's clear proof that the rights were abused. He's also saying Jessie1010 is bringing all his friends to attack him. I'm no friend of Jessie1010. The fact is I gave Evanf the benefit of the doubt regarding Jessie1010. If you could count on anyone to side with Evanf against Jessie1010 it would be me. But I've been shown clear proof by some users that Jessie1010's block was the result of a vendetta. I won't deny verifiable facts just because I don't like someone. I'd support Evanf's rights being revoked. I wouldn't be opposed to him gaining them back someday if he could prove he'll use them responsibly. But for now I think demoting would be the proper thing to do.